Honda Crv Gen 2 Valve Adjustment Manual
I just bought a 06 Accord after my Cr-V went belly up with the famous valve problem. If you don't know what I am talking about just go to hondasuv.com and read the Cr-V forum. On a daily basis you will see someone wondering why their Cr-V runs rough. I did everything on my Cr-V ( I bought brand new in 00 and had 103K when i got rid of it) by the book. I had the famous Cr-V tightening problem and one of my valves burned at 103K. Bye bye Cr-V. I am assuming the accord engine isn't going to have these problems.
It seems to be only those Cr-V K seried engines. My advise to anyone thinking about buying a used Cr-V for their child, stay away from them. With the mileage on most Cr-V's (Gen.1) hitting the century mark, the valve issue is only going to grow. I hear that some gen.2 Cr-V's are having problems too.
Honda 2.4 Valve Adjustment
I hope the 06 Accord doesn't have this problem. The first time I have a problem with the Accord, bye bye HONDA! So far, I have only 4K miles and am happy. I don't really care for the maintenance minder. I don't want to think that the car is telling me that the oil is good for 10K miles with the original factory oil in it.
I am changing it Tuesday. Anyone who wants to give some assurance on the reliability of this engine, feel free. I need some assurance. So uh.I don't know what you guys do over at HondaSUV, but I went to read it and I think I probably missed something. It just didn't seem like valves were burning on someone's car every day, and it didn't seem like the members who really knew their stuff were having any problems. Remember these are forums. If you aren't having marital problems, you don't go look for a marriage counselor.
Similarly, if you don't have car issues, mostly you don't go digging around the internet in your preciously limited free time. That explains most of the 'valve burning' issues I would think. You said that your 00 and others have had the 'famous' problem, but you go on to say that it's mostly a disease affiliated with the K24's. So, which is it?
I find it hard to believe that it would be an issue for BOTH the B20 and K24, and the link being that they're in the CR-V would lead me to believe it's not the engine's fault.see below. More reasons to believe that there's either 1) no merit to the valve burning issue or 2) it's simply CR-V component related is that tons of cars and SUV's use the motors that the CR-V's use.
In fact, ssjones has 160+K on his Accord K24 and it's still running like a top according to him. Not to mention the fact that most Honda's have a failed tranny before they have a failed engine - one 02 Odyssey owner has been through three trannies, original engine 320+K a few months ago. Then you throw in the fact that when some people make valve adjustments at high mileage - there's even one person I saw who did it at 98K on HondaSUV - they generally aren't off by a whole bunch. Top it off with the B-series engine being very popular for modding - between the B16A2 Civic Si's, the B18 Integras, the B20 CR-V's (which get their motors converted into VTEC monsters a lot by the tuners), and I don't know why they would keep using it if they burn valves. I know there are probably big differences with the B16/B18 and the B20.but there are B20's with over 250HP that don't have issues.
I have not yet seen a Honda engine fail from a bad valve adjustment. I have never even heard of this valve burning problem until now. My friend has a 1st and a 2nd gen CR-V with no issues. Maybe it's that the CR-V's are heavier so their engines have to work harder, or they have a bad cooling system? So I guess my short answer would be.you'll be fine. The MM system on my car hit 15% at around 5200 miles, so thats when I changed the oil out (at 15% is when the system finally tells you what it wanted done). I do really suggest to the OP that you keep the factory oil in longer.the break in oil is designed to help set the seals in the engine amoung other things, and changing it out early might cause issues down the road (and considering what happened to your CRV you wouldn't want that).
I mean if your car hits 15% when mine did, you only have another 1200 miles to go, which isn't all that much when you think about it. I just bought a 06 Accord after my Cr-V went belly up with the famous valve problem Congrats on the new Accord, but this is the very first time I have ever heard or read about any such 'valve problem'. The 1st gen CRV's B20 engine is based strongly on the B16 and B18 engines (used in the Civic and Integra) which have been around for a relatively long time and are known for their durability, longevity and dependability. The 1st gen CRVs are no exception. The only explanation I can come up with is that someone over tightened the valve lash during a routine valve adjustment which caused one of the valves to burn. I am assuming the accord engine isn't going to have these problems.
It seems to be only those Cr-V K seried engines 1st gen CRVs had a B-series (B20). 2002+ CRVs have a K-series (K24).
Same engine used to power the 2003+ I4 Accords. I don't really care for the maintenance minder. I don't want to think that the car is telling me that the oil is good for 10K miles with the original factory oil in it Leave the factory break-in oil alone until at least 5k miles.
Anyone who wants to give some assurance on the reliability of this engine, feel free. I need some assurance. Honda engines are some of the most dependable, longest lasting engines in the industry.
Honda IS an engine manufacturer, first and foremost. Yes, this problem has been documented for years with that Gen CRV. You don't hear the valves make noise because they tighten up. When I bought my Accord in 2000 for business purposes, I also looked into the CRV and it was mentioned, even back then, that you had better have the valves inspected/adjusted at 50K for that engine. I test drove one and didn't care for the buzziness at 70-75mph (3K-3.5K RPM), even though the layout would have been much better for transporting computer equip and tools.
The same valve adjustment setup was used on the 2.3L head in my Accord, so I had mine checked/adjusted at 50K even though no reports had indicated they were having the same issues as the CRV. BTW, at that time my dealer only charged $84 for the adjustment and was able to reuse the gasket. I haven't heard of any issues with the 2.4L, now used in the CRV and Accord, regarding burnt valves. But I bet they still use the screw/locknut setup, instead of shims, for adjusting the valve clearance. Can anyone with this engine coroborate this???
According to the manual the valves were supposed to be check at 105K when I got the timing belt and water pump replaced. Honda failed to mention to get the valves checked every 30 K miles. The 96-98 Cr-V's don't really have this problem until 99-01 when the horsepower was raised and apparently the valve springs were different. These valves are tightening (who knows how) and you cannot hear anything.
I had 87K miles on my Cr-V and i noticed it would hesitate when it was cold. I changed the plugs and still the same thing. I took it to the dealer and on the way the check engine light came on. Honda checked the compression and said that the valves were 'super tight' and needed to be adjusted.
They adjusted them for $75 and I was good. I brought the car in at 103K to get the 105K mile service (TB, belts, h20 pump etc.) and had them look at the valve adjustment again.
Honda said the valves were a little tight and he adjusted them again. (only 16,000 miles have passed). I don't know what happened that day, but I had this 'squeaking, ticking noise' coming from where the valves are located. Honda assured me it sounded like the AC tensioner. I replaced that and I knew that noise was coming from under the valve cover. They told me nothing would make that kind of noise.
They agreed to check the valves again to make me happy. By this time, it is another tech and he checked the compression and showed the 1st cylinder to be significantly lower than the rest. I was really impressed with what he saw, he said he could tell that I took care of this vehicle from brand new. He said it look brand new under the valve cover. He said most of the cars he sees are just nasty because people never change their oil regularly. He concluded that I had a bad valve in the 1st cylinder and that noise was apparently coming from that vavle.
I felt like I was screwed since all the upkeep and maintenance and the valves should have been adjusted well before 105K (especially the 99-01). Not many older Cr-V and newer ones have these problems. Instead of the HOnda goodwill warranty (they would replace my head, I would have to supply labor they know something is up when they are replacing heads on cars with 105K miles), I walked over to the sales and traded the darn thing in. I didn't want the headache and they did offer me a good trade. Maybe you just got a bad car? In my last 14 months at Bobby Rahal Toyota/Lexus, we have only gotten 2 factory fluke cars.
One being a 06 Corolla S It had a bubble in the block, and at 800 miles all of the coolant leaked out? And it overheated. I felt bad for that customer, then a 06 Camry LE v6 the axle seal was leaking so bad at 30 miles, that there was grease ALL over the passenger side front wheel. We get the fun little quirks all the time, Like last week, we had a Sequoia come in that actually had the embroidered 'sequoia' badge on the floor mats upside-down! We get fun stuff like that to make fun of every now and then, gotta love yota's.
They are just a little boring for my taste. 1996 honda accord manual free. Except- the 07 Camry SE in Barcelona Red with black leather and the smoked TRD wheels. We just sold one. I had the valves adjusted for the first time in my 96 @ 160k miles. I didn't notice any less valvetrain racket, but I did notice a slight increase in performance. Otherwise, the valves had never been touched since at least 40k miles.and I highly doubt the previous owners did anything to the car except drive it and change the oil with so few miles.
Honestly.I've never seen/heard of this problem w/ Honda 4 cylinders. I know for the longest time, the CRV was Consumer Reports' highst rated vehicle for reliability Ditto. I even thought of the 1st gen CRVs as being even more reliable than the average Honda.
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